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Event on Saturday to get DRM out of the Boston Public Library [Feb. 7th, 2008|11:04 am]
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DefectiveByDesign.org has announced an action against libraries that support DRM on their collections. Boston locals can join them this Saturday from 1pm to 3pm at the Boston Public Library's main branch, and non-locals are encouraged to stage an action against their own library if it's using DRM.

Read story at Digg

(I'll be there.)

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[User Picture]From: thetathx1138
2008-02-07 04:20 pm (UTC)
Thanks for informing us about an event while giving us precisely ZERO content. Where is the DRM in the Boston Public Library, is it something the library can remove or is it something they're saddled with, and why should this be of interest to anyone who doesn't know what DRM is already?
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[User Picture]From: sunow
2008-02-07 04:23 pm (UTC)
It's true, I had no idea what DRM is, and it took me a while to find out what it stood for. Now I'm not sure what the problem with it is. :-/
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[User Picture]From: thetathx1138
2008-02-07 04:34 pm (UTC)
Well, since we're here...

DRM basically restricts what you do with data that you purchase. A good example is if you have an iPod, you might have noticed that you can't take MP3s off of what amounts to a portable hard drive, even if they are rips from your CDs. That's DRM.

DRM basically ranges from a minor annoyance to a serious problem; it can be a violation of consumer rights and can cause computer security or access problems.

That said, looking at the site, this protest seems to be about what amounts to minor annoyances. At best. This might even be DRM the BPL was stuck with by an outside vendor and there's no way around it; obviously nobody at Defective By Design cares enough to research that.
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[User Picture]From: sunow
2008-02-07 04:47 pm (UTC)
Ah, see -- I'm very much a technophobe. I have no iPod or anything like it. In fact, I'm typing this from an Apple 2GS.

I guess I don't understand why it's a problem in media you'd take out from the library -- you're not buying that so you don't have any kind of consumer right to it?
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[User Picture]From: thetathx1138
2008-02-07 04:50 pm (UTC)
Don't ask me. I actually support certain types of DRM, because it keeps people from stealing my work!
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[User Picture]From: lillyflowers
2008-02-07 05:06 pm (UTC)
It doesn't matter whether you purchase it from Amazon or borrow it from the BPL. Things like Sony's root kit can really mess up your system's software and open you up to malicious software.

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[User Picture]From: perspicuity
2008-02-07 04:43 pm (UTC)
well, you've got DRM on your DVDs... prevents you from [in theory] copying them or using them in a region the 'rights holder' doesn't want you to. hah. with physical media, you eventually have to return it. physical media also wears out. eventually they have to replace it, or get rid of it (for good). libraries don't have infinite storage space right? they have to choose. the DRM argument presented would have you think that they'll always have a copy of something - for important works, that may be true, but it's sometimes the case in smaller libraries that old books are tossed out. even old, rare books. i heart library book sales :)

effective DRM on the other hand, can be annoying to those with certain needs. an expiration date is like returning the book. need it again? check it out again.

it's also really annoying to those who want a free lunch. which is to say, piracy.

if the library encodes their materials before release, maintaining archival copies for their own internal long term use, it's probably pretty happy. they can store a LOT of material this way. then they have an IT issue of maintaining backups and archives and that's messy too. let's have a rally that address their IT solutions as well. how do we know the backups will work in 50 years? ;)

if the library doesn't do their own encodings (likely), they are saddled by the maker's requirements themselves - just like you or me if we bought it ourselves. that has more to do with the industry currently. it's not the library's fault nor under their control. don't like it? buy more books at baen.com and support non DRM'ed eBooks (lots of free books too). Amazon currently has DRM'ed on their eBooks, and so does Sony. Amazon seems to be doing particularly well right now.

the ultimate aim of this movement, at this time seems to be: toss out all this material. which would make it not available at all, even in the current potentially annoying manner. which is worse?

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[User Picture]From: thetathx1138
2008-02-07 04:45 pm (UTC)
Remember when the first DVD encryption scheme was cracked by a fifteen-year-old from Norway? Man, did I ever laugh.
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From: shirt_seeker
2008-02-07 04:47 pm (UTC)
I thought you would get books at a library? In case you can get movie DVDs, computer games and Music CDs there then taking these home and making copies for yourself is a breach of copyright and hurts the industry and the producing artists/programmers.

So this protest is meant to say: "I want to be able to make illegal copies of everything without paying in the future too?"
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[User Picture]From: thetathx1138
2008-02-07 04:49 pm (UTC)
But you could donate to the artist's Paypal! ;-)
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From: shirt_seeker
2008-02-07 04:57 pm (UTC)
Paypal is soooo 90s...:oD
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[User Picture]From: sunow
2008-02-07 04:52 pm (UTC)
That's how I'm understanding it. :-/
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From: shirt_seeker
2008-02-07 04:56 pm (UTC)
The the FBI should hang out at this protest event and arrest everyone as they potentially all have illegal copies of copyright protected products.
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[User Picture]From: panzerkunst
2008-02-08 04:16 am (UTC)
You can download audiobooks from the library's website, but only for PCs. As they say on their website:

"Why can't I transfer OverDrive Audio Book titles directly to my iPod, or use these files on my Mac?

OverDrive Audio Book titles, provided by OverDrive, Inc., use DRM protection technology from Microsoft Corporation. Unfortunately the iPod and Mac do not currently support DRM-protected Windows Media Audio (WMA) files.

OverDrive, along with hundreds of online digital media providers, is hopeful that Apple and Microsoft can reach an agreement that would enable support for Microsoft-based DRM-protected materials on the iPod and Mac."
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