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Why does Allston-Brighton keep re-electing Jerry McDermott? [Feb. 18th, 2007|10:43 pm]
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While attending a show in the South End, I happened to pick up a new weekly newspaper called the Boston Bulletin. One of the articles contained this:
City Councilor Jerry McDermott railed against the “arrogance and smugness” of the two men hired to hang the ill-fated promotional material.

“All their little loser friends came out with their signs [at the courthouse] saying ‘1/31...Never Forget.’ They have already forgotten 9/11, these kids. There is a whole generation out there like this and it is disgusting,” McDermott said.

And this guy represents Allston-Brighton? If I lived there I'd start raising money today to displace him and find someone more ... representative. This is the same guy who wanted to tear down the CITGO sign last year.
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[User Picture]From: georgy
2007-02-19 03:53 am (UTC)
With the relatively high turnover of the A-B population compared to other districts, he probably enjoys great support amongst resentful townies (though I am just supposing that).
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[User Picture]From: fibro_witch
2007-02-20 12:10 am (UTC)
Your correct about his support of the townies. I do not consider us to be resentful. Just people trying to make a home for themselves, and raise their kids to be good people.

They have jobs, do not like being treated like dirt by spoiled college kids, or people that think they are 'better' than they are.
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[User Picture]From: rufinia
2007-02-19 03:53 am (UTC)
Because a lot of the people who live in Allston/Brighton are a bunch of BU and BC slacker-ass students who can't bestir themselves to care about anything except where their next beer is coming from?

(Moving out of Allston was one of my better decisions.)
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[User Picture]From: ravenword
2007-02-19 03:59 am (UTC)
Most students I know vote in their home states/districts, not the ones where they're going to school. I was the same way, but then registered in Somerville when I moved there after graduation.
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[User Picture]From: anomie666
2007-02-19 03:59 am (UTC)
Honestly, most of Lolz supporters in Allston-Brighton are not exactly regular voters.

The generational differences between the cartoon network hipsters and the older single family homeowners in terms of voting regularity would be very different.

I don't agree with the guy saying "little loser friends", etc.
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[User Picture]From: anomie666
2007-02-19 04:05 am (UTC)
dude....smoke a bong and laugh at some more cartoons!
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[User Picture]From: ron_newman
2007-02-19 04:19 am (UTC)
I take it a bit personally when an elected official calls me a "little loser friend".
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[User Picture]From: anomie666
2007-02-19 04:21 am (UTC)
I agree...it was a stupid thing to say...especially for a politician who should know how to use language better.
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[User Picture]From: liamstliam
2007-02-19 04:58 am (UTC)
I disagreed with him on the Citgo sign.

I agree with him on this one.
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[User Picture]From: mperrotti76
2007-02-19 05:04 am (UTC)
We defeated the Germans at Pearl Harbor in 1492.
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[User Picture]From: driftingfocus
2007-02-19 05:16 am (UTC)
Good one.
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[User Picture]From: mperrotti76
2007-02-19 05:04 am (UTC)
Well... Why did he want to get rid of the sign?
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[User Picture]From: ron_newman
2007-02-19 05:09 am (UTC)
Because CITGO is owned by the government of Venezuela, whose president is Hugo Chavez. George W. Bush doesn't like Chavez, and the feeling is mutual.
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[User Picture]From: liamstliam
2007-02-19 05:13 am (UTC)
I think it's a case of Bush not liking Chavez because Chavez has the caljones to stand up to Bush.
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[User Picture]From: kpht
2007-02-19 05:40 am (UTC)
IAWTC
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[User Picture]From: anomie666
2007-02-19 05:42 am (UTC)
IJTTFAAPMP.
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[User Picture]From: kpht
2007-02-19 05:49 am (UTC)
wtflol
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[User Picture]From: anomie666
2007-02-19 05:53 am (UTC)
Maybe TMI, but..

I just tried to fart and accidentally pooped my pants.
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[User Picture]From: kpht
2007-02-19 05:59 am (UTC)
ha u sharted
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[User Picture]From: clevernonsense
2007-02-19 08:25 pm (UTC)
OUR FRIENDS FROM VENEZUELA ARE GIVING MASSACHUSETTS CHEAP HOME HEATING OIL

I love those commercials :)
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[User Picture]From: juldea
2007-02-19 11:50 am (UTC)
Hi, liam.

You know me in real life. We have a lot of good mutual friends. And I am horribly offended at this comment. (You say you agree with the article posted, and this is b0st0n, so I'm going to assume you would've included qualifiers if you felt they were necessary.)

I was at the courthouse on the day of Peter and Sean's arraignment. When I went, I had no clue who either of them were - I was not some idiot friend. I was someone who felt there was something wrong with the system and I wanted to object to it, publically. At one point, with the rest of the people there, I was holding a "1/31/07 Never Forget" sign.

I have NEVER had a problem with the police response on the day of January 31st in Boston. I have ALWAYS said this in LJ and in public. I have NOT forgotten 9/11/2001. I think it is incredibly offensive for you to agree with someone who insists that I have to be trivializing such a horrible and tragic loss of life in order to object to, not the police response, but the administration's response in the aftermath of the "Mooninite" disaster.

I would not have reacted the same way to the Mooninite signs in Boston, but it's not my job to ensure the safety of our city. I also would not have put the signs up on overpasses, but I have not gotten to the point where I'm taking $300 contract jobs, either. And if my employer was a huge company and asked me specifically to put my signs up on overpasses and other places that were highly visible and public, I would assume they had cleared it with the city and I would not be facing up to five years in jail time for doing a silly $300 job.

I might be painting you with a very black-and-white disagree-agree with the original quote here. Then again, you seem to be painting people like myself and ron_newman (who was also at the arraignment) with other shades of black and white. I ask you to please consider that it's possible to object to the charges brought up against Peter and Sean without being a "disgusting loser friend" who has "forgotten about 9/11," because I for one am not and have not.
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From: cescalynne
2007-02-19 02:00 pm (UTC)
I don't think anybody is trying to deprive you of your right to object to the charges brought against those two individuals. But I do agree that a "1/31/07 Never Forget" sign is incredibly tactless.

Clearly you haven't forgotten what happened on 9/11 but a sign like that conveys the message that you don't have much sympathy for the victims and their families if you would make such a comparison.

I understand there was no malicious intent here; I get the facetiousness of it. But I do think you're a bit quick to get so offended.
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[User Picture]From: juldea
2007-02-19 03:58 pm (UTC)
I didn't accuse anyone of depriving me of my right. I accused someone of being wrong in their judgement that anyone who objected had forgotten 9/11. That IS a harsh judgement and something that would offend many Americans.

Satire is a completely acceptable manner of taking something serious and using it to show the absurdity of another's actions. Was Jonathan Swift not taking cannibalism seriously when he proposed that Irish families should sell their children as food in order to get out of poverty?
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[User Picture]From: fibro_witch
2007-02-20 12:34 am (UTC)

Satire

To have been a satire, you could have created a poster with a 9/11 Giuliani, with the word hero over him, next to a picture of Menino with the word, wanna be, over him. That is satire.

Just 1/31 never forget is thoughtless.
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[User Picture]From: juldea
2007-02-20 12:38 am (UTC)

Re: Satire

First off: I did not make the posters. I held one for a few minutes at the arraignment. I found them amusing and not offensive or thoughtless.

And this is why Freedom of Speech is wonderful - because people have different opinions.
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From: cescalynne
2007-02-20 08:16 pm (UTC)

Re: Satire

Whether you made the poster or not is irrelevant.

And I completely agree. Freedom of speech is wonderful. No one's objecting to your right to express yourself. I'm just saying that McDermott has the right to think whatever he wants about you and the other protesters.

And I have the right to think the sign was in bad taste and anyone choosing to carry it is completely tactless.
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[User Picture]From: liamstliam
2007-02-19 02:04 pm (UTC)
I apologize for offending you. I think you know me well enough to know that was not my intent.

Also, your points are well-taken.

I have to admit that I should have taken the time to post something more conclusive than a simple "I agree."

I almost posted "but I do not agree with the pathetic losers" comment, and I didn't. I can say that now, but it's not as effective.

What I meant to say (seriously) is that I agree with the criticism of these two men. [And I do not agree with the 9/11 comment, either. But again, I was going for a quick hit before bed.]

But I do have strong feelings about this issue and I am weary of people defending these two men and criticizing the city's response. That's why I sent out a snap-comment.

They did something illegal, and they should get a penalty. These charges are for only one of the, what, 30 times they did it? If they get punished once for 30 violations, then they are getting off fairly cleanly. (Do I think they should do a year or more in prison? I don't think so).

My real problem with them is the way they acted after the first court date. (Yes, I am sounding like Joe Menino). To be silly and to promote another show, well that's not right. I guess I am at the "if I don't get remorse, then I guess I do want punishment" point right now.

I really think this is a generational thing. (Yes, I am sure some older folks will speak up in here). But among the folks I teach with, there's a lot of anger about what they did and how they reacted. [I know I cannot paint with a wide brush, and I don't mean to be offensive -- and I have no idea of ron's age or yours -- but that's just an observation I have. In some circles I hang out in, the majority of the folks support these guys.]

I do want to comment on your defense of what they did. I would be interested know if they knew what they were doing was illegal. Clearly, many people would have. What do you think is a legitimate penalty?

And I would be curious about this, if you would: Why did you go to the courthouse if you didn't know them? I am just curious.

Again, my apologies for offending you (and to anyone else who felt that way). I know I have the right to disagree, but I do not have the right to offend.

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[User Picture]From: ron_newman
2007-02-19 02:58 pm (UTC)
I'm not juldea and won't presume to speak for her. But I went to the courthouse because I thought the defendants were improperly and excessively charged, and because they were being made scapegoats. If it matters, I'm also not a "kid" -- I'm old enough to be the defendants' father.

I think it's totally inappropriate for a elected official to publicly call us "little loser friends" because we're concerned about a possible miscarriage of justice.

I'd like to see them do community service. Since they are art-school graduates, the service should somehow make use of that training. Perhaps they can teach art for free to public school students in underserved neighborhoods of Boston.
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[User Picture]From: juldea
2007-02-19 04:07 pm (UTC)
Very happy to read this post. I feel much better knowing that your comment was just a snap response and not a blanket approval of the original quote. :)

I went to the courthouse out of many reasons, and I suppose a big one is that I didn't have work on that day and therefore had an actual chance to go out and support a cause I felt was interesting, which, working a 8:30-to-5 for the past while, I have never really had the chance to do! I want to be the kind of person who takes a part in their local government and makes their voice heard; this gave me an opportunity, and all the information for doing it was given right here on b0st0n making it even easier for me to go. (I make no illusions about not being lazy!)

I don't actually know what the laws are regarding, shall we say, "creative decoration" of government property, but whatever someone would get for putting up any kind of poster or graffiti is what I think the guys should get arrested for. Not for "perpetrating a hoax" because that requires intent to cause terror, and that was not their intent. So yes, if there is some kind of fine or minor jail time involved for just "vandalizing" the overpass, I have no objection with nailing them for that. THAT was a risk they took when getting the job and not making sure they saw any type of permit from their employer.

As for their actions at the courtroom - once again, I didn't know them, and neither did (ballpark estimate) 90% of the people who had gone to the court house to object to their arraignment. I know that, out of myself and the people I did talk to afterwards, no one thought their "press conference" had been a good idea. Funny, yes, but funny doesn't always mean a good idea and it certainly doesn't always mean respectful. (Wait... "and to promote another show"? When was this?)

Ron is in his late 40s. I am 27 and dislike the TV show they were advertising for, and don't even have cable television to watch it anyway. ;)
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[User Picture]From: liamstliam
2007-02-19 06:01 pm (UTC)

Thanks for the response.

All that would talk about in the press conference was hair. Specificially "Hair in the Sevenries," which is an upcoming Cartoon Network show.
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[User Picture]From: ron_newman
2007-02-19 06:12 pm (UTC)
that's the name of a TV show?

I left Charlestown immediately after the court hearing ended, and did not stay for the press conference. I only heard about it later. I don't know if juldea stayed for it.
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[User Picture]From: juldea
2007-02-19 06:16 pm (UTC)
I did - you can even see me in the video footage of it. :P
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[User Picture]From: juldea
2007-02-19 06:15 pm (UTC)
Aha! I had no clue there was an upcoming show called "Hair in the Seventies." I thought they were just being irreverent.
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[User Picture]From: liamstliam
2007-02-19 06:43 pm (UTC)
The Herald has been regularly reporting iut.

The Globe has not for some reason.
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[User Picture]From: juldea
2007-02-19 06:48 pm (UTC)
Ah, that explains it - I don't touch the Herald. :)
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[User Picture]From: ron_newman
2007-02-19 06:59 pm (UTC)
if you read it online you can avoid having to actually touch it
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[User Picture]From: juldea
2007-02-19 07:12 pm (UTC)
That's still mental touching... ew.
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[User Picture]From: mperrotti76
2007-02-19 05:07 am (UTC)
I dunno. Watching those interviews after they released those guys... They did come off as semi-retarded. They should just said sorry or no comment or something simple and left it at that. Not come out like two hyenas after bong hits.
But none-the-less, this McDermott guy should not have said that. He is a civic leader, so he cold show a little class himself.
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From: ravendark122ils
2007-02-19 06:50 am (UTC)
I'm sending that guy a douchebag in the mail!
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[User Picture]From: catullus_5
2007-02-19 02:37 pm (UTC)
Maybe he just doesn't like illuminated signs in general. At least he's consistent.
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[User Picture]From: clevernonsense
2007-02-19 08:32 pm (UTC)
That's it!

We should elect him for Davis to get rid of that newsticker...
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[User Picture]From: dreamgirly19
2007-02-19 02:39 pm (UTC)
The signs were immature and stupid, I agree with him. However, he as a politician should know how to use the English language better.
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[User Picture]From: pushupstairs
2007-02-19 03:27 pm (UTC)
I haven't forgotten 9/11 - I just choose to realize that life goes on.
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[User Picture]From: ron_newman
2007-02-19 03:30 pm (UTC)
Same for me. 9/11 was a terrible tragedy, but it was also 5 1/2 years ago. Less time elapsed between Pearl Harbor and Hiroshima. We need to fully return to normalcy.
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[User Picture]From: fibro_witch
2007-02-20 12:31 am (UTC)
Life does go on, life has gone on.

Seeing those signs made me feel like they were pissing on the grave of my friends. I have yet to see someone refer this to a 'Holocaust' either. The signs were not satire, the signs were comparison. And not at all funny. To have been a satire, you could have created a poster with a 9/11 Giuliani, with the word hero over him, next to a picture of Menino with the word, wanna be, over him. That is satire. Just 1/31 never forget is thoughtless
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[User Picture]From: pushupstairs
2007-02-20 02:22 pm (UTC)
I thought it was a great satire. It made fun of the ridiculous overreaction to everything "in our post-9/11 world", as the media likes to call it. I laughed.

that Guiliani/Menino poster would not be funny at all.
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[User Picture]From: pushupstairs
2007-02-20 02:26 pm (UTC)
and for reference, though I don't personally know anyone who died that day, a heck of a lot of my friends do.

and those friends think those signs are funny too.
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[User Picture]From: fibro_witch
2007-02-20 12:07 am (UTC)
I lived in A/B for a while. Jerry has a lot of support from the older people in Brighton, and the home owners in Allston. He talked to the neighborhood watch group I was a member of, and knows the people in his community who need assistance.

I contacted his office when the park I lived near became an after hours hang out for college kids. I had become tired of being woken up at 3 am by keg parties. One night, mid week, after exams, some group had a keg party in the park. The next moring the park was trashed.

I was caling the Trash guys, the parks department and the police to remove the kegs. Call me uncool if you like, but 3am keg parties in a public park then leaving trash behind is so not cool. Anyway, the park was full of cleaning people within an hour, and HE called me back later in the day to make sure the park was clean. He also promised to get a better response from the police about patroling the park.

That is why people keep voting him in. Because as Tip once said 'All politics is local.' I also know a lot of people who agree with him on the Citgo sign. I am not one of them.

I also lost 3 friends on 9/11. I also found those signs offensive. Highly offensive. And in poor taste.


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